New Guard versus Old Guard

More dragging up old interwebz content because I'm bored read: procrastinating from doing University readings...

We get a lot of so-called 4th Edition army lists sent to us here at YTTH - which sometimes get chewed through by Stelek et al. Lots of fun!

People on Dakka, Warseer, BoLS Lounge, and other places keep advocating them. Why? Because they keep winning.

W. T. F.

How can Orks, Tyranids, Daemons, and armies-designed-with-no-answer-to-mech beat the Vulkans, mech-Eldar, Tau, and other armies. The same way that I only placed 5th in battle points at 2008 Vegas GT, instead of 1st or 2nd... experience (or the lack thereof). I had only completed my Immolator Spam list 1 week before the GT and only had a few games with it under my belt.

We're not spending enough time playing our armies. We're playing people who have had the same army for years - or a close approximation thereto.

An optimized army list will only get you so far. The actual application of tactics and knowing your army is more important by far. Amen brother. Hallelujah!!

So get out there and play, dangit!

- StJohn70 in 4th Ed Army > 5th Ed Army?

A very straight forward idea. Something that Stelek has been advocating recently. And something that Blackmoor failed to do in preparation for WAR Games Con even with his 20 dollar challenge. This isn't only Andrew and John's view...

Good post and good points.  I have 4 fully painted armies, which enough variation in those 4 that I can play another 4 out of that.  Plus I usually build a new army every few months to eliminate list burn out etc.  

But yes, someone who knows their list inside and out will always do better then the "it" thing for the month. 

- Thomas a.k.a Goatboy in the discussion

 and ...

This is exactly why Clint performs so well with battleforce type lists. He plays the list to death, for years straight, so he knows exactly what he will do in any situation, because he has already been there several times ... Some people have tons of experience so they know what to do, some people are more talented tacticians so they know what to do. When the two are presented with a scenario different from any they've seen before, who comes out on top?

- Jimmy a.k.a Froggage in the discussion

 Even Ron, the founder of From the Warp, understands this.